Legislature(2001 - 2002)

01/24/2001 02:08 PM House FIN

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 24, 2001                                                                                           
                          2:08 PM                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 TAPE HFC 01 - 18, Side A                                                                                                       
 TAPE HFC 01 - 18, Side B                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
 CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Mulder called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                     
 to order at 2:08 PM.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Eldon Mulder, Co-Chair                                                                                          
 Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Con Bunde, Vice-Chair                                                                                           
 Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                      
 Representative John Davies                                                                                                     
 Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                  
 Representative John Harris                                                                                                     
 Representative Bill Hudson                                                                                                     
 Representative Ken Lancaster                                                                                                   
 Representative Jim Whitaker                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Tina Lindgren, President & Chief Operating Officer, Alaska                                                                     
 Travel Industry Association, Anchorage; Ann Campbell, Chair,                                                                   
 Alaska Travel Industry Association, Anchorage.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
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 GENERAL SUBJECT(S):                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     ALASKA TRAVEL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (ATIA)                                                                                  
     PERFORMANCE REPORT ON TOURISM MARKETING FOR ALASKA                                                                         
     TRANSITION FROM ATMC AND DIVISION OF TOURISM TO ATIA                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes                                                                     
and handouts will be on file with the House Finance                                                                             
Committee through the 22nd Legislative Session, contact 465-                                                                    
2156. After the 22nd Legislative Session they will be                                                                           
available through the Legislative Library at 465-3808.                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LOG SPEAKER               DISCUSSION                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     TAPE HFC 00 - 18                                                                                                         
     SIDE A                                                                                                                   
000 Co-Chair Mulder       Convened the meeting with the Alaska                                                                  
                          Travel Industry Association (ATIA).                                                                 
092 ANN CAMPBELL, CHAIR, Noted the handouts that had been                                                                       
     ALASKA TRAVEL        distributed.  [Copy on File].  She                                                                    
     INDUSTRY             provided a brief historical overview of                                                               
     ASSOCIATION,         the agency.  She stated that the                                                                      
     ANCHORAGE            organization was managed by a 23-member                                                               
                          elected Board of Directors, representing                                                              
                          various sectors of the Alaska visitor                                                                 
                          industry and various regions of the                                                                   
                          State.  Marketing programs are developed                                                              
                          and implemented through an extensive                                                                  
                          committee structure, including advisory                                                               
                          committees with the active participation                                                              
                          of 40 members.  As managers of the                                                                    
                          contract, Department of Community &                                                                   
                          Economic Development must approve the                                                                 
                          marketing plan prior to implementation.                                                             
280 Ms. Campbell          ATIA currently has just over 900 small                                                                
                          businesses.  She noted the percentage of                                                              
                          business per number of employees.                                                                     
                          Regular membership levels start as low as                                                             
                          $100 for small businesses; and marketing                                                              
                          partner investment rates increase                                                                     
                          depending on the number of people                                                                     
                          employed during the peak season.                                                                    
365 Ms. Campbell          Noted that ATIA provides advantages to                                                                
                          the small businesses.  Additionally, they                                                             
                          are making good head way in marketing and                                                             
                          strength.  ATIA is moving forward into                                                                
                          the future.  Listed the fund raising                                                                  
                          events to date.                                                                                     
434 Ms. Campbell          Clarified that the total contracting                                                                  
                          amount was $6.928 million dollars.  The                                                               
                          State of Alaska contributed $4.850                                                                    
                          million dollars.  The Alaska Marine                                                                   
                          highway will not be transferring funds                                                                
                          into the fund.  The private sector is                                                                 
                          expected to contribute 30% in matching                                                                
                          funds.  To date, the cruise partners have                                                             
                          contributed $819 thousand dollars.                                                                  
537 Co-Chair Mulder       Asked what the "play to pay" partners                                                                 
                          were.                                                                                               
557 Ms. Campbell          Responded that they are the cooperative                                                               
                          advertising programs.                                                                               
579 Ms. Campbell          The partners have made two payment                                                                    
                          allowances.  The money to date has been                                                               
                          committed only.  She added that 83% cash                                                              
                          had already been collected.                                                                         
630 Ms. Campbell          She expected that the remaining 15% would                                                           
                           be collected in the next several months.                                                           
 622 TINA LINDGREN,        Referenced the handout specifics and                                                                 
      PRESIDENT, CHIEF     details.                                                                                           
      OPERATING OFFICIER,                                                                                                       
      ALASKA TRAVEL                                                                                                             
      INDUSTRY                                                                                                                  
      ASSOCIATION,                                                                                                              
      ANCHORAGE                                                                                                                 
 681 Ms. Lindgren          Addressed the missions and measures of                                                               
                           ATIA.                                                                                              
 695 Ms. Lindgren          It is important to market Alaska as a                                                                
                           visitor destination.  The State is                                                                   
                           attempting to attract a diverse mix of                                                               
                           visitors.                                                                                            
                             · maintain or increase the average                                                                 
                                length of stay in Alaska                                                                        
                             · increase year round employment                                                                   
                             · attract a diverse mix of visitors                                                                
                                who travel to and within Alaska by a                                                            
                                variety of travel modes                                                                         
                             · endeavor to position Alaska as a                                                                 
                                year round destination                                                                          
                             · increase total visitor expenditures                                                              
                                statewide                                                                                       
                             · increase independent visitation to                                                               
                                Alaska                                                                                          
                             · increase the rate of repeat visits                                                               
                             · increase interest in Alaska as a                                                                 
                                visitor destination                                                                             
                             · increase awareness and participation                                                             
                                of business in the marketing program                                                            
                             · increase private sector funding of                                                               
                                state tourism marketing programs.                                                             
 772 Ms. Lindgren          Spoke to what is doing well - ATIA is                                                                
                           creating an opportunity for those                                                                    
                           interested in marketing to have one                                                                  
                           destination with marketing concerns.                                                                 
                           That could be an advantage., while                                                                   
                           creating greater efficiency in having all                                                            
                           businesses "dove-tail" together.  She                                                                
                           reiterated that would create greater                                                                 
                           efficiency.                                                                                        
 852 Ms. Lindgren          Touched upon some new additions to the                                                               
                           program:                                                                                             
                           *Public relations (Martha Stewart)                                                                   
                           *Advertising - 2 million direct mail                                                                 
                           pieces mailed which hopefully will                                                                   
                           generate inquiry.  Magazine advertising.                                                             
                           Trip planning information pieces being                                                               
                           sent with a total of 450 thousand pieces                                                             
                           produced                                                                                           
                          * Trade, including international - she                                                                
                          listed the current overseas offices,                                                                  
                          including Japan, UK, Germany and                                                                      
                          Australia.                                                                                            
                          * Developing an on-line travel-training                                                               
                          program.                                                                                              
                          * Maintaining the "Travel Alaska.com" web                                                             
                          page.                                                                                               
1222 Ms. Lindgren         She noted that ATIA employs 9.5 people,                                                               
                          working on the contract.  She interjected                                                             
                          that ATIA is being efficient                                                                          
                          investigating additional marketing                                                                    
                          partnership opportunities beyond basic                                                                
                          listings and links.                                                                                 
1250 Ms. Lindgren         Monitoring the investment.  Following up                                                              
                          with telephone interviews indicates that                                                              
                          nearly 20% of people that request info                                                                
                          come to visit within two years.                                                                     
1292 Co-Chair Mulder      Asked if there had been a follow up with                                                              
                          those who visit and intend a continual                                                                
                          return to the State.                                                                                
1316 Ms. Lindgren         She noted that ATIA buys the most                                                                     
                          efficient media first.  She acknowledged                                                              
                          that there has not been recent television                                                             
                          advertising.  She agreed that could have                                                              
                          an effect on those that might act                                                                     
                          impulsively.                                                                                        
1354 Co-Chair Mulder      Questioned why there was no television                                                                
                          advertising.                                                                                        
1363 Ms. Lindgren         Stressed that had been a budget managing                                                              
                          decision.  The hope is to get back to                                                                 
                          television advertising.                                                                             
1379 Co-Chair Mulder      Referenced the idea of a conversion                                                                   
                         matrix system?                                                                                       
1400 Ms. Lindgren         Offered to provide the conversion study                                                               
                          and the breakdowns that accompany that                                                                
                          study.                                                                                              
1428 Co-Chair Mulder      Asked what greater funding would provide                                                              
                          the State.  He requested real numbers and                                                             
                          how they would translate to numbers of                                                                
                          people.                                                                                             
1453 Representative       Inquired if there had been entry or exit                                                              
     Hudson               surveys done.                                                                                       
1468 Ms. Lindgren         Explained that there had been a draft                                                                 
                          research undertaken recently to identify                                                              
                          such a concern and identify the                                                                       
                          maintained Alaskan visitor's habits.                                                                
1510 Representative       Asked if that information would include                                                               
     Hudson               what entices visitors to come to Alaska.                                                            
1529 Ms. Lindgren         Responded that there is less information                                                              
                          available from those persons that receive                                                             
                          their information from word of mouth.                                                               
 1558 Representative       Asked if this had been the 1st year                                                                  
      Hudson               without television advertising.                                                                    
 1570 Ms. Lindgren         Responded that last year, there was small                                                            
                           television funding.  She acknowledged                                                                
                           that it had been a few years since there                                                             
                           was real television advertising.                                                                   
 1601 Representative       Acknowledged that television advertising                                                             
      Hudson               was advantageous and very expensive.                                                               
 1626 Co-Chair Mulder      Referenced the cruise ship marketing                                                                 
                           television ads.                                                                                    
 1651 Vice-Chair Bunde     Requested a comparison to other western                                                              
                           states tourism activity and how it                                                                   
                           relates to that in Alaska.  He suggested                                                             
                           that perhaps tourism is down because of                                                              
                           the gas price increase.                                                                            
 1670 Co-Chair Mulder      Asked what would be a healthy rate of                                                                
                           growth in tourism in Alaska.                                                                       
 1683 Ms. Lindgren         Commented that there is not one rate of                                                              
                           growth that affects each community the                                                               
                           same.  The national average is 2.5%                                                                  
                           increase.  Last year Alaska was at 3%                                                                
                           growth.  Currently, there are more people                                                            
                           entering the tourism industry, which                                                                 
                           creates tremendous competition.                                                                    
 1733 Ms. Lindgren         In the tourism market worldwide, the                                                                 
                           cruise rate percentage has increased                                                                 
                           substantially.  The Alaska cruise rate                                                               
                           has maintained a 10% growth.                                                                       
 1768 Ms. Lindgren         Explained that a target that the State                                                               
                           expects to achieve is not available.  She                                                            
                           commented that what would be enough would                                                            
                           be when business owners are happy and                                                                
                           full.  6% increase would keep tourism                                                                
                           healthy for the State.  She acknowledged                                                             
                           that at 3%, Alaska is falling behind and                                                             
                           that some of the State's marketing                                                                   
                           budgets have declined.                                                                             
 1870 Vice-Chair Bunde     Suggested that there are places in Alaska                                                            
                           that tourism is maxed out, such as                                                                   
                           Juneau.  He commented that the Alaska                                                                
                           tourism market was too focused on the                                                                
                           high volume areas.                                                                                 
 1907 Ms. Campbell         By definition, an average tourist is in                                                              
                           Alaska 10+ days.  They are spending more                                                             
                           than the average visiting days.  These                                                               
                           tourist tend to be "better and bigger"                                                               
                           spenders than most visitors to other                                                                 
                           states.                                                                                            
 1953 Representative       Commented on the average numbers being                                                               
      Whitaker             provided.  He spoke to the goals                                                                     
                           established by ATIA, which he did not                                                                
                           believe measured success.  He recommended                                                          
                          that ATIA provide a percentage number.                                                              
2054 Co-Chair Mulder      Agreed that there should be an                                                                        
                          encompassing number, which could provide                                                              
                          a measurement for the Legislature to                                                                  
                          identify.                                                                                           
2080 Ms. Lindgren         Explained that last year, the state                                                                   
                          increased the budget by 12.7%.  One goal                                                              
                          is to increase visitation by 3% in the                                                                
                          next year, a target set by ATIA.  She                                                                 
                          commented that to achieve that goal with                                                              
                          the current budget would be unreasonable.                                                             
                          She added that ATIA lacks the measurement                                                             
                          tool of the State's statistics program.                                                               
                          She reminded the Committee that the                                                                   
                          program is only 6 months old.                                                                       
2141 Co-Chair Mulder      Noted that it would make better sense to                                                              
                          formulate a more focused groundwork for                                                               
                          policy amounts.  He understood that 3%                                                                
                          was what had already been received.  He                                                               
                          challenged the Board to isolate a number,                                                             
                          which would sustain a healthy rate of                                                                 
                          growth.                                                                                             
2184 Ms. Lindgren         agreed that made sense.                                                                             
2190 Representative       Asked if ATIA targeted summers only.                                                                
     Lancaster                                                                                                                  
2197 Ms. Lindgren         Explained that the entire program was a                                                               
                          year-round marketing program.  The entire                                                             
                          program is meant to market Alaska as a                                                                
                          year-round destination.                                                                             
2222 Representative Croft  Asked what it would cost for ATIA to                                                                 
                          create sustainable goals.  He referenced                                                              
                          Page 9 of the handout, which highlighted                                                              
                          the outlined goals.  He commented that                                                                
                          they had been well defined.  He inquired                                                              
                          what a budget with a 4-5% growth would                                                                
                          look like.  He questioned if industry                                                                 
                          would be willing to step up to that.                                                                
2268 Representative       Echoed sentiments of Representative                                                                   
     Davies               Croft.  He recommended that discussion                                                                
                          should be regarding market shares and the                                                             
                          sustained increase.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
     TAPE HFC 01 - 18,                                                                                                        
     Side B                                                                                                                   
007 Co-Chair Mulder       Commented that it would be a good point                                                               
                          to debate the market shares.  If a 5%                                                                 
                          growth were attained, then what other                                                                 
                          considerations should be made.                                                                      
111 Ms. Campbell          Replied that at present time, ATIA is                                                                 
                          focused on the transitioning programs.                                                              
170 Co-Chair Mulder       Commented that ATIA had a much more                                                                   
                          defensible budget.                                                                                  
217  Ms. Lindgren         Noted that ATIA has both a pro-active and                                                           
                           re-active media-advertising program.                                                                 
                           ATIA proactively goes out and seeks                                                                  
                           national publications and that media                                                                 
                           story ideas are continually distributed                                                              
                           throughout the nation.                                                                             
 334 Representative        Commented that the marketing campaign has                                                            
      Hudson               to have consistency.  There must be long-                                                            
                           term goals established.  Everything,                                                                 
                           which is planted, must be given the                                                                  
                           opportunity to grow.  He recommended that                                                            
                           public relation advertising be                                                                       
                           encouraged.  He recommended that there                                                               
                           should be people from the trade going out                                                            
                           and speaking about the trade.                                                                        
                           Additionally, he suggested that                                                                      
                           legislators give talks about Alaska                                                                  
                           tourism destination when out of State and                                                            
                           abroad.                                                                                            
 466 Ms. Lindgren          Advised that ATIA is now in the planning                                                             
                           stages for FY02.  She noted that by the                                                              
                           beginning of March, there would be a                                                                 
                           draft plan and contract, which then                                                                  
                           should be negotiated on April 1st.  To                                                               
                           date, the marketing committee has met.                                                               
                           One of their plans that they have                                                                    
                           discussed is the increased public                                                                    
                           relations.                                                                                         
 532 Ms. Lindgren          Interjected that ATIA has to date, only                                                              
                           had six months to merge all programs.                                                              
 577 Representative        Asked about ATIA's funding goals.                                                                  
      Davies                                                                                                                    
 596 Ms. Campbell          Replied that in three years, they intend                                                             
                           to reach the goals of the working plan.                                                            
 621 Ms. Lindgren          Next year, the goal continues to be 30%.                                                           
 641 Representative        Asked if the total request amount was                                                                
      Davies               expected to increase.                                                                              
 660 Ms. Campbell          Replied that ATIA is currently planning a                                                            
                           $7.6 million dollar budget.                                                                        
 700 Co-Chair Mulder       Questioned if there was a good business                                                              
                           plan.                                                                                              
 708 Ms. Lindgren          Replied that ATIA is working on that.  At                                                            
                           this time, ATIA is encouraging businesses                                                            
                           to pay more if they can.  She                                                                        
                           acknowledged that it is difficult to get                                                             
                           people to pay more out of their pocket.                                                            
 737 Co-Chair Mulder       Commented that all of Alaska enjoys the                                                              
                           services, yet none want to pay.                                                                    
 760 Co-Chair Mulder       ADJOURNED: 3:05 PM                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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